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Hi All

A new web site / blog about Harbour Language

I couldn't find builder (Massimo Belgrano )

By the way, is there anyone tried hbide ?

Regards

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Esgici

Hi Esgici,

I tried HBIDE a few months ago. But, was unsuccessful.

I shall try it again.

Hi Esgici:
Desde esta página se puede bajar HBIDE.
http://hbide.vouch.info/index.html?projects.htm
Suerte, Saludos
Walter.

sudip wrote:
I tried HBIDE a few months ago. ...

And... what about GT of Harbour ?

Regards

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Esgici

tave2009 wrote: Desde esta página se puede bajar HBIDE.

Gracias Walter

But I'm wondering your experience and opinion

Saludos

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Esgici

Yes, I'm wondering the same. I didn't go much further as I felt quite upset about the "explorer" windows, I mean where you have to open a file specially. Takes a long time or maybe I need a faster disk. The DBU utility looks fine but not fully implemented yet.

I'll focus on the editor to see how it fares... To me not having a visual designer/GUI is a deal breaker these days that's why I prefer the simple but neat and solid HMG Ide. Hope Roberto gets time to keep updating it, as the concept is so good.

esgici wrote: And... what about GT of Harbour ?

For GT of Harbour, I tried GTWVG. It's very good for converting DOS Clipper Apps to Windows. It has some Windows GUI controls (but, cannot be compared with HMG). Transferring from Clipper CUI to Windows GUI seems to be more complex to me. It has very small user base. Creator of GTWVG, Mr. Pritpal Bedi is a helpful person, but he is very busy. So, sometimes I couldn't find any solution for a problem.

So, IMHO, GTWVG may be recommended as a first step for converting old Clipper Apps withing a very short time. But, for the real Windows apps, I strongly recommend HMG. (Recently I recommend the same to a veteran Clipper user)

Moreover there is a problem related to Harbour itself. For Windows printing, we need to use Win_prn class. But, it has problem of printing custom paper size. (This problem doesn't exist in xHarbour Win32prn class.) I posted about this problem several times in many places of Harbour user group, Harbour Facebook, personally to Pritpal and Massimo. I saw some posts regarding solving this problem in Harobur Developer group, but after testing, I found solution was not done yet.

Thank you Esgici, for this topic

Hello Esgici,

I just found folliing post from xMate group. From this post, it's clear - this Harbour site was created by Massimo.

1a. Re: xMate SE
Posted by: "Massimo" mbelgrano@deltain.it massimo_belgrano
Date: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:14 am ((PDT))

In last version hbide seem imclude all need part in hbide.exe
i am tryng a comparation with visual foxpro ide
http://harbourlanguage.blogspot.com/
You can try my version from cvs from
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B8GgbI ... y=CKW9hdcM
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... hmm .... I need to check the new version

For me, xMate editor is fantastic. The main feature is the function list. We can go to any function in no time. Syntax highlighting is also good.

rathinagiri wrote:For me, xMate editor is fantastic. The main feature is the function list. We can go to any function in no time. Syntax highlighting is also good.

xMate's editor is, indeed, THE tool for ex-clipper / harbour / minigui programmers.
The only two big drawbacks:
- You can't call/use editor from outside xmate IDE, and thus you can't make a combined use miniGui IDE and xMate's editor, for example.
- It seems stalled/abandoned by Andi. That's a really pity!

Regarding HBIDE, Pritpal is doing a huge work developing it. He deserves much respect for his dedication but, IMHO, Qt is somehow 'alien' and far away from xbase programmer 's feeling/thinking. At least for windows programming Harbour/MiniGUI combination is by far (and beyond any competition), best choice.

Just my 2 cents of course..


regards,

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Pete