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Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:00 am
by Agil Abdullah
Claudio wrote:
Hi Friend,
does required "clean" install, install over HMG.3.3.1 with or without previous patches.
What does "clean install" really mean? I put the new folder SOURCE & INCLUDE [from download] to overwrite the ones sitting in my laptop and then it run well. For example the constant color "RGB_DarkGreen" is recognized by HMG331 from now on ( HMG-IDE still rejects the code, only accept
{,,,} ).

I need to tell my friends in my country if it requires special thing to make sure they get the newest update.

Regards,,,,

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:21 am
by esgici
Agil Abdullah wrote: What does "clean install" really mean?
  • - Uninstall ALL HMG installations
    - Delete (remove) ALL HMG Files & folders
    - If you can, CLEAN ALL HMG info from Windows Registry ( It's absolutely unnecessary and cumbersome writing somethings to Windows Registry by HMG Setup prg :x )
and than run HMG Setup

That's all ...
I put the new folder SOURCE & INCLUDE [from download] to overwrite the ones sitting in my laptop and then it run well.
"Run well" doesn't means "will run always" ;)
For example the constant color "RGB_DarkGreen" is recognized by HMG331 from now on ( HMG-IDE still rejects the code, only accept
{,,,} ).
What is RGB_DarkGreen ?

If it's a color constant, where defined ?

It's normal IDE don't recognize it, if it is defined out of HMG sytem files.
I need to tell my friends in my country if it requires special thing to make sure they get the newest update.
This is the best way.

Clean install requires only for some special cases.

Happy HMG'ing :D

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:43 am
by Agil Abdullah
Esgici,,,,,

Thanks for explaining. I have some collections of old version HMG. To "Clean Install", perhaps I need to uninstall them all, including remove them all from registry [regedit].

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:33 am
by esgici
Agil Abdullah wrote:Esgici,,,,,

Thanks for explaining. I have some collections of old version HMG. To "Clean Install", perhaps I need to uninstall them all, including remove them all from registry [regedit].
You can keep copy of installed versions (folders) ( this the way I follow ).

If you haven't some added ( by you ) items in that folders, may be enough keeping setup packages only.

For uninstall you can use uninstall.exe in the HMG root folder or using Control Panel of Windows. IMO cleaning registry is always required. Everyone knows, primary cause of system slowness in the Windows is "swelling" of registry.

Happy HMG'ing :D

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:49 pm
by EduardoLuis
Hi Claudio:

Thanks for your effort creating this new patch, and sharing it with us

Only for the records: i don't make a "clean" installation, and all works fine.-
The procedure i use is:
1.- Unzip patch3 on a new folder.-
2.- Delete from HMG.3.3.1 folder, "INCLUDE" and "SOURCE" folders.-
3.- Then copy unziped folders "INCLUDE" and "SOURCE" to HMG.3.3.1 folder.-
4.- Build new libs in ANSI and UNICODE.-
And thats all.-

Thanks again, Claudio.
With regards. Eduardo

Hola Claudio:

Gracias por tu esfuerzo en este nuevo patch y por compartirlo con nosotros.-

Solo para los registros: no realice una instalación limpia, y todo funciona perfectamente.-
El proceso que utilice es:
1.- Deszipear el patch3 en una nueva carpeta.-
2.- Eliminé de la carpeta HMG.3.3.1, las carpetas "INCLUDE" y "SOURCE".-
3.- Copié las carpetas deszipeadas "INCLUDE" y "SOURCE" en la carpeta HMG.3.3.1.-
4.- Reconstruí las nuevas librerias en ANSI y UNICODE.-
Y eso es todo.-

Nuevamente, Gracias Claudio.
Cordialmente. Eduardo

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:10 pm
by srvet_claudio
esgici wrote:What is RGB_DarkGreen ?

If it's a color constant, where defined ?
Yes, addition of 456 new colors definitions, see INCLUDE\i_color.ch (contrib by Grigory Filatov)
esgici wrote:It's normal IDE don't recognize it
I do not know.
I'm from the old days, I like to write code by hand, I never use any IDE.

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:57 pm
by esgici
srvet_claudio wrote:
esgici wrote:What is RGB_DarkGreen ?

If it's a color constant, where defined ?
Yes, addition of 456 new colors definitions, see INCLUDE\i_color.ch (contrib by Grigory Filatov)
Yes, found; come with last (third) patch and I missed :(
esgici wrote:It's normal IDE don't recognize it, if it is defined out of HMG sytem files.
This isn't entirely correct :(

IDE don't recognize color constants, even defined in system files :(

IDE give two options for color definition :

- Default ( Nil )
- Custom ( Via Color Select dialog box )
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And tried, when edited .fmg file out of IDE (anyway dangerous) (with color constant) HMG says : Syntax Error :mrgreen:
I do not know.
I'm from the old days, I like to write code by hand, I never use any IDE.
Really :o :shock:

You are writing ( deeply modified ) and don't never used; I can't believe :?

Anyway we have to admit, this must be normal approach / behavior / habit for low-level programmers :P

Out of joke, thank you very much for everything 8-)

Best regards

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:27 pm
by serge_girard
Claudio: Me too: 'm from the old days, I like to write code by hand but I use HMG-IDE for compiling but not the FORMS module for screen-painting...

Serge

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:01 am
by bpd2000
srvet_claudio wrote:I'm from the old days, I like to write code by hand, I never use any IDE.
+1

Re: HMG 3.3.1 (Stable)

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:25 pm
by Mario Mansilla
Hola :
yo por lo contrario desde que Roberto diseño el ide , no realizo nada que no sea a travez del mismo , las nuevas posibilidades que no están incorporadas prefiero no usarlas porque despues cuando corrijo algo en la pantalla tengo que repasar todo . Lo unico que agrego a mano son las propiedades transparent en el control image y Border en los Label .
Saludos

hi:
I on the other hand since Roberto design ide not realize anything but travez the same, the new possibilities that are not incorporated rather not use them because then when I correct something on the screen I have to review everything. The only thing added by hand are transparent in the image properties and Border Control in the Label.
Regards .