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Post by esgici » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:34 pm

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For those considering this ideas weird or silly, I'm sorry in advance if I disturbed you with this :)
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Neither weird or silly nor disturbed; only very enthusiastic :)

Big or small, long or short life, every project begins by little steps.

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Post by Roberto Lopez » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:00 am

esgici wrote:
Roberto Lopez wrote: ...
For those considering this ideas weird or silly, I'm sorry in advance if I disturbed you with this :)
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Neither weird or silly nor disturbed; only very enthusiastic :)

Big or small, long or short life, every project begins by little steps.
Its true, but, sadly I have not enough available time to do myself a such project.

The enthusiasm is because I've think about this for years... sometimes I had ideas that appeared to be right, but I was not absolutely convinced about it.

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Post by esgici » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:52 am

Roberto Lopez wrote:
... sadly I have not enough available time to do myself a such project.

The enthusiasm is because I've think about this for years... sometimes I had ideas that appeared to be right, but I was not absolutely convinced about it.
Don't give up your dreams, if so this will be end of life although you are live ( Mark Twain )

Every big job begin by dreaming it. IMHO now you are in the start point.

Your view point and your target are right and your dream is able to coming true.

Moreover certainly you have everything to achieve this.

And surely you will be not alone. Beside whose don't be interested, will be someones following you.

Let's hope for the best to JSClipper !

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Post by Roberto Lopez » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:11 pm

esgici wrote:
Don't give up your dreams, if so this will be end of life although you are live ( Mark Twain )
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Let's hope for the best to JSClipper !
I'll try to not give up :)

Anyway, I have no intentions to start such project right now, but it is possible that I use some concepts in web developments.

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Post by Rathinagiri » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:30 pm

Hi Roberto,

Your vision shows that you are a true leader.

Your JavaScript example shows your intention clearly. Now I understand, how HMG has emerged in these years.

IMHO, event handling can be done with JavaScript, where as HTML handling (preprocessing) can be done with PHP.

Let us start a project and I can help the project to my level best.

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Post by Roberto Lopez » Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:38 pm

rathinagiri wrote:Hi Roberto,

Your vision shows that you are a true leader.

Your JavaScript example shows your intention clearly. Now I understand, how HMG has emerged in these years.

IMHO, event handling can be done with JavaScript, where as HTML handling (preprocessing) can be done with PHP.

Let us start a project and I can help the project to my level best.

Thanks and regards.
Thanks for your kind words.

Regarding the design my, idea is to keep it as simple as possible, it means to keep to use of PHP minimal, perhaps, to handle http requests to backend database only.

This way our javaScript applications will be wrote with the same logic as desktop applications using a remote SQL database.

So, the entire program (or module) will be an html file including all required things.

We should use the 'AJAX' way, so, requests to server should be done via XMLHttpRequest:

http://www.javascriptkit.com/jsref/ajax.shtml

The server will return data instead a new entire page.

We receive the data, parse it and process as required by our app.

The application will perform like a real desktop one, requesting data from a server and showing it.

Google applications are a good sample of how this works.

What do you think about it?

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Post by Rathinagiri » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:27 pm

Just wonderful and speechless. What else?!

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Post by Roberto Lopez » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:29 pm

Roberto Lopez wrote: We should use the 'AJAX' way, so, requests to server should be done via XMLHttpRequest
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The server will return data instead a new entire page.
We receive the data, parse it and process as required by our app.
The application will perform like a real desktop one, requesting data from a server and showing it.
When I talk about xmlhttprequest I mean:

http://www.technetra.com/writings/archi ... ttprequest

We should have a very little generic PHP routines in the server.

This routines should be generic designed to perform basic database operations for all applications.

And I insist... the html must be generated at 'translation time' along the javascript code in the same html file. This will simplify the process and will make the things easier.

We will develop web applications. The logic should be the same as a desktop applications (not web sites, even they look the same).

The 'web site logic' was designed for static sites, not for applications, so, we must avoid that as much as we can. We must not forget that.

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Post by Roberto Lopez » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:33 pm

rathinagiri wrote:Just wonderful and speechless. What else?!

Together we can make success.
Let me think a little more about general design, there are some things that should be defined yet.

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Post by esgici » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:46 pm

Hi

This may be an alternative / example ?

ftp://sbe4730:damac@ftp.itcgrupo.es/

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