new VAT for 1/2 Year in Germany

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new VAT for 1/2 Year in Germany

Post by AUGE_OHR »

hi,

it was announce that VAT will be reduce from 19% to 16% and 7% to 5%
this will start on 01.07.2020 (!) and end 31.12.2020

Problem : normal you have VAT TAX for hole Year and now it change twice

Sample :
if someone have pre-payed Article now with 19% but deliver is after 01.07.2020 you have to "give back" 3% ... can your App do this :?:

so next 30 Days i have to spend a lot of Time to check "special" Situation how to handle it ... :roll:
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Post by edk »

I would just make a correction of the VAT invoice
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Post by apais »

Congressmen dictate laws without a clue on how it is gonna be implemented.
Result: more tasks, bureaucracy, and increased administrative costs.

Same all over the world.

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Post by AUGE_OHR »

apais wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:12 pm
Same all over the world.
that all was done in Germany while have Corona :evil:

so it might be possible that other Country do same.
lets talk about Solution like EDK have ( 4 x VAT )

while VAT have change before i do have a DBF for VAT for different Periods

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MWSTVON      MWSTBIS      MMWST1   MBUCHKTO1   MMWST2   MBUCHKTO2   MMWST3   MBUCHKTO3   MSTEUER1   MSTEUER2   
-----------Ð------------Ð--------Ð-----------Ð--------Ð-----------Ð--------Ð-----------Ð----------Ð----------
01.01.2000 ¦ 31.12.2006 ¦  7,00  ¦ 08300     ¦ 16,00  ¦ 08400     ¦ 14,00  ¦ 08401     ¦ 08125    ¦ 08125    ¦ 
01.01.2007 ¦ 31.12.2007 ¦  7,00  ¦ 08300     ¦ 19,00  ¦ 08400     ¦ 16,00  ¦ 08341     ¦ 08125    ¦ 08125    ¦ 
01.01.2008 ¦ 30.06.2020 ¦  7,00  ¦ 08300     ¦ 19,00  ¦ 08400     ¦ 16,00  ¦ 08341     ¦ 08125    ¦ 08125    ¦ 
01.07.2020 ¦ 31.12.2020 ¦  5,00  ¦ 08xxx     ¦ 16,00  ¦ 08xxx     ¦ 19,00  ¦ 08xxx     ¦ 08xxx    ¦ 08xxx    ¦ 
01.01.2021 ¦ 31.12.2099 ¦  7,00  ¦ 08300     ¦ 19,00  ¦ 08400     ¦ 16,00  ¦ 08341     ¦ 08125    ¦ 08125    ¦ 
those 8xxx are for accounting department which i have to fill with new for 16% and 5%
but i have only 3 x VAT while 7% never have change before ... now i have to enhance it
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Post by edk »

I know this problem well ;) . In the past, the matrix of VAT rates has been changed many times. That is why I am prepared for such situations - I can define any number of VAT rates, with a maximum of seven rates being active at the moment. Why seven? Because only so many rates can be programmed in fiscal cash registers and it seems to me impossible for governments to introduce fiscal regulations that would suddenly require the exchange of millions of cash registers.
Most often, introducing changes to the matrices of VAT rates causes considerable problems when using fiscal devices. While, in the case Jimmy describes, it seems to be a simple reprogramming of rate groups, you have to do it one night on all devices in the country. But here you can also use software that will do it automatically. Worse, if you have to do it only for some products (what awaits me in the near future) and it is impossible to accurately determine by any algorithm which products should be converted to the new VAT matrix. You have to do it manually in hundreds of cash registers for thousands of products in one evening.
In addition, there are issues related to the return of previously purchased products. Cash registers, which have admission in my country, do not allow refund operations in "non-existent" VAT. You have to do it bypassing the cash register, if the store does not have the appropriate software, it must count manually.

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Post by AUGE_OHR »

hi,

translate by G.
What does the tax cut mean for gastronomy?

Thanks to the new economic stimulus package, overnight stays and deliveries outside the home should now be taxed at 5 instead of 7 percent.
As a corona compensation, the sales tax rate for food in the restaurant drops from 19 to 7 percent, but not for drinks. They are taxed at 16 percent.
so now 2 x Set of VAT, than 3 x Set of VAT and back ... hm
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Post by edk »

It seems necessary to separate the goods items into separate items "with delivery" , "to go" and "on here" at different VAT rates. We solve it this way.

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Post by Rathinagiri »

In India, Government frequently changes their tax policy. They will immediately introduce a flood surcharge or cess for a particular state, if there is a flood.

So, as a programmer we have to foresee these things and after getting frustrated every time they change the rates/ tax structure, I have done like this. Created separate tax rates master file and it will have effective rate, effective date and sometimes it is related to products table also, since different products may have different rates!
East or West HMG is the Best.
South or North HMG is worth.
...the possibilities are endless.

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